I was asked by Coach Thiebaut what he thought the rating might be, or how I might go about obtaining the right number.
Here’s a little snapshot of the method I’ve primarily been using this season.

On the left are the girls that ran at Cadillac today. Their times, their schools, but the main component is the seconds they ran in the race, in Column E. On the right are those same runners, with their overall rating for the season in Column L and that rating converted to seconds in Column M. In the middle, Column J is the difference between M and E.

This is a graph of that middle column, sorted from the lowest difference (between their rating and what they ran today) and the highest difference. The goal now is to find the straightest part of the line before you see much difference in verticality. By my eyes, that appears to be the part circled. Taking the average data points in the circled spot, girls tended to run 15 seconds faster than their rating so far this year. So the girls adjustment here is +15.

A common misconception (which is probably egged on by me stirring the pot, not that I’d ever do that), is that a positive number here means a course is short. I prefer the term “ran fast”. A course can run fast on a day, aided by a number of factors: great conditions, aggressive racing, good footing, etc. The distance itself plays a role, but this is cross country. Courses will be 2.9, 3.107, 3.15, 3.0001, 2.99, but all runners are running on the same course that day, and their times on that day will determine the adjustment needed. I’m just trying to compare across the state, across different days. Next week, it could be 80 deg., the following week, 32 and freezing rain. The ratings hope to make up for our volatile Michigan weather.
Girls Adjustment: +15
Boys Adjustment: +19
Grade | Name | Time | Team | Rating |
10 | Mylie Kelly | 18:19.4 | Benzie Central | 148.5 |
10 | Aiden Harrand | 18:28.5 | Buckley | 145.5 |
11 | Hannah Pricco | 18:35.1 | Lansing Catholic | 143.3 |
12 | Whitney Farrell | 18:58.7 | Freeland | 135.4 |
12 | Mara Longenecker | 19:00.7 | Freeland | 134.8 |
11 | CC Jones | 19:05.5 | Lansing Catholic | 133.2 |
10 | Tessa Roe | 19:11.4 | Lansing Catholic | 131.2 |
12 | Leanne Krombeen | 19:49.5 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 118.5 |
9 | Allison Nobis | 19:58.3 | Clare | 115.6 |
9 | Landrey Kuhn | 19:59.6 | Freeland | 115.1 |
12 | Elise Johnson | 20:00.6 | Benzie Central | 114.8 |
11 | Ariel Warner | 20:12.1 | Shepherd | 111.0 |
12 | Carly Judge | 20:22.1 | Shepherd | 107.6 |
12 | Molly Harding | 20:23.5 | Manton | 107.2 |
11 | Regan Hill | 20:24.0 | Cadillac | 107.0 |
11 | Elle Himebaugh | 20:28.7 | Shepherd | 105.4 |
11 | Kaylee Locke | 20:37.2 | Beal City | 102.6 |
11 | Eleanor Cool | 20:40.1 | Cadillac | 101.6 |
12 | Hattie Veenkant | 20:48.9 | Clare | 98.7 |
10 | Bella Reed | 20:49.4 | Freeland | 98.5 |
11 | Jolie Fisher | 20:59.4 | Shepherd | 95.2 |
11 | Emmie West | 21:06.0 | Lansing Catholic | 93.0 |
10 | Avery Mickelson | 21:12.8 | Cadillac | 90.7 |
10 | Paige Kloha | 21:17.1 | Freeland | 89.3 |
12 | Emberlynn DeVries | 21:17.8 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 89.1 |
12 | Sofiah Coker | 21:23.1 | Clare | 87.3 |
11 | Chloe Colton | 21:23.4 | Manton | 87.2 |
10 | Madison Morris | 21:29.7 | Manton | 85.1 |
12 | Paige Walters | 21:31.2 | Shepherd | 84.6 |
12 | Allyson Harvey | 21:32.4 | Freeland | 84.2 |
9 | Gracie Warner | 21:33.6 | Shepherd | 83.8 |
9 | Kaleigh Swiger | 21:34.8 | Cadillac | 83.4 |
12 | Reese Ensing | 21:37.0 | McBain | 82.7 |
10 | Marisa Mazza | 21:40.1 | Cadillac | 81.6 |
12 | Morgan Howell | 21:44.8 | Manton | 80.1 |
12 | Rachal Weber | 21:48.3 | Beal City | 78.9 |
11 | Elizabeth Rigling | 21:53.1 | Leroy Pine River | 77.3 |
12 | Lilly Bailey | 21:57.0 | Shepherd | 76.0 |
12 | Hailey Prokop | 21:58.9 | Lansing Catholic | 75.4 |
12 | Hailey Wanstead | 22:00.9 | Leroy Pine River | 74.7 |
12 | Hayley VanWagoner | 22:01.6 | Benzie Central | 74.5 |
11 | Carley Lynch | 22:01.9 | Shepherd | 74.4 |
10 | Lauren Jousma | 22:05.0 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 73.3 |
11 | Ella Gaylord | 22:06.0 | Benzie Central | 73.0 |
10 | Madison Gimmey | 22:06.7 | Shepherd | 72.8 |
12 | Abby Leigh | 22:07.6 | Clare | 72.5 |
11 | Hadyn Armstrong | 22:11.9 | Beal City | 71.0 |
10 | Cali Quartz | 22:14.4 | Cadillac | 70.2 |
11 | Haven Vasold | 22:14.4 | Freeland | 70.2 |
12 | Lauren Staal | 22:15.7 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 69.8 |
10 | Madisyn Lundquist | 22:19.2 | Cadillac | 68.6 |
12 | Maya Musgrave | 22:22.0 | Benzie Central | 67.7 |
9 | Jenna Kowalski | 22:29.2 | Freeland | 65.3 |
10 | Tessa Wohlschlegel | 22:29.4 | Beaverton | 65.2 |
9 | Ava Iverson | 22:31.8 | Benzie Central | 64.4 |
12 | Haley Bendele | 22:37.0 | Shepherd | 62.7 |
9 | Reganne Stahl | 22:45.4 | Manton | 59.9 |
12 | Emma Seemann | 22:49.4 | Freeland | 58.5 |
10 | Andrea Feldpausch | 22:50.7 | White Cloud | 58.1 |
9 | Taylor Seibt | 22:53.8 | Clare | 57.1 |
11 | Amanda Sanchez | 22:56.4 | Freeland | 56.2 |
10 | Lilly Weesies | 22:57.7 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 55.8 |
10 | Hadley Hilt | 23:02.3 | Cadillac | 54.2 |
12 | Isabel Schroeder | 23:06.3 | Clare | 52.9 |
10 | Baylie Eisenga | 23:06.6 | McBain | 52.8 |
11 | Amanda Hill | 23:06.9 | Leroy Pine River | 52.7 |
10 | Amelia Schihl | 23:10.9 | McBain | 51.4 |
9 | Kennedi Wahmhoff | 23:11.5 | Manton | 51.2 |
12 | Grace Wolf | 23:12.1 | Shepherd | 51.0 |
11 | Mikehlah Gimmey | 23:21.3 | Shepherd | 47.9 |
11 | India Doerr | 23:23.2 | Lansing Catholic | 47.3 |
9 | Lola Bryce | 23:25.5 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 46.5 |
10 | Abbie Buteyn | 23:27.2 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 45.9 |
9 | Megan Schulte | 23:31.0 | Lansing Catholic | 44.7 |
9 | Nora Grossnickle | 23:32.7 | Benzie Central | 44.1 |
10 | Cambrie Lawrence | 23:32.8 | Benzie Central | 44.1 |
11 | Jersey Johnson | 23:39.6 | Leroy Pine River | 41.8 |
10 | Bailey Seibt | 23:40.8 | Clare | 41.4 |
12 | Allie Boyd | 23:45.6 | Clare | 39.8 |
9 | Chelsi Eisenga | 23:46.1 | McBain | 39.6 |
11 | Hadley Saylor | 23:48.4 | Manton | 38.9 |
12 | Nora Coffey | 23:50.8 | Lansing Catholic | 38.1 |
10 | Kara Forsberg | 23:52.0 | Clare | 37.7 |
11 | Ellie Sickles | 23:53.0 | Shepherd | 37.3 |
10 | Lily Ward | 23:53.7 | Clare | 37.1 |
12 | Lydia Sterly | 23:57.7 | Leroy Pine River | 35.8 |
9 | Catherine Taft | 23:59.9 | Clare | 35.0 |
9 | Ashley Alto | 24:00.3 | Cadillac | 34.9 |
10 | Rowan Ensing | 24:06.8 | McBain | 32.7 |
11 | Kiara Edwards | 24:20.2 | White Cloud | 28.3 |
12 | Grace Wahr | 24:22.8 | Manton | 27.4 |
10 | Hanah Johnson | 24:23.0 | Cadillac | 27.3 |
12 | Lindsey Dip | 24:24.0 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 27.0 |
10 | Haylee Groen | 24:24.5 | Cadillac | 26.8 |
11 | Elaine Kutas | 24:45.0 | Lansing Catholic | 20.0 |
11 | Lilly Backus | 24:45.4 | Beal City | 19.9 |
10 | Fiona Kline | 24:47.7 | McBain | 19.1 |
10 | Kiera Harsh | 24:49.1 | Beal City | 18.6 |
12 | Erin Collier | 24:49.3 | Freeland | 18.6 |
10 | Megan Veitengruber | 24:50.8 | Clare | 18.1 |
12 | Lily Nitz | 24:51.1 | Freeland | 18.0 |
9 | Hayden Swartz | 24:54.8 | Freeland | 16.7 |
11 | Simone Kaechele | 24:58.4 | Clare | 15.5 |
9 | Kaitlyn Pfeffer | 24:58.9 | Lansing Catholic | 15.4 |
9 | Alisia Pedrin | 25:03.3 | Cadillac | 13.9 |
9 | Genesis Wilson | 25:04.0 | McBain | 13.7 |
9 | Kendra Fouts | 25:08.8 | Clare | 12.1 |
9 | Leah Fisk | 25:19.8 | Cadillac | 8.4 |
10 | Genevieve Pappas | 25:26.5 | Beal City | 6.2 |
9 | Baylee Richardson | 25:34.0 | Cadillac | 3.7 |
12 | Courtney LaClair | 25:35.2 | White Cloud | 3.3 |
10 | Sasha Seegobin | 25:37.9 | Freeland | 2.4 |
11 | Kierstin Fouts | 25:43.0 | Clare | 0.7 |
Grade | Name | Time | Team | Rating |
11 | Hunter Jones | 15:14.4 | Benzie Central | 208.9 |
11 | Braydon Honsinger | 15:51.4 | Freeland | 196.5 |
12 | Noah Morrow | 15:54.4 | Manton | 195.5 |
9 | TJ Hansen | 16:09.7 | Freeland | 190.4 |
12 | Jacob Wurtzel | 16:22.5 | Freeland | 186.2 |
12 | Josh Otten | 16:27.0 | Lansing Catholic | 184.7 |
11 | Nathan Jenkins | 16:28.3 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 184.2 |
10 | Brad White | 16:42.7 | Clare | 179.4 |
12 | Logan Manion | 16:46.0 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 178.3 |
12 | David Pruder | 16:50.4 | Lansing Catholic | 176.9 |
10 | Nolan Nixon | 17:08.1 | Cadillac | 171.0 |
11 | Braden Klein | 17:10.1 | Freeland | 170.3 |
12 | Cameron Haraburda | 17:12.3 | Lansing Catholic | 169.6 |
12 | Dan Kehoe | 17:16.1 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 168.3 |
11 | Ben Wertz | 17:17.4 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 167.9 |
12 | Josh Frary | 17:18.0 | Lansing Catholic | 167.7 |
10 | Nic Porter | 17:30.2 | Clare | 163.6 |
11 | Michael Musgrave | 17:30.9 | Benzie Central | 163.4 |
11 | Jackson Hilt | 17:41.1 | Cadillac | 160.0 |
11 | Nathan Ciolk | 17:43.6 | White Cloud | 159.1 |
12 | Landyn Cool | 17:44.8 | Leroy Pine River | 158.7 |
12 | Mason Cross | 17:45.3 | Shepherd | 158.6 |
12 | Haydin Sims | 17:46.4 | Harrison | 158.2 |
10 | Gabe Outman | 17:48.3 | Cadillac | 157.6 |
11 | Dade Allen | 17:48.6 | Benzie Central | 157.5 |
9 | Nolan Longuski | 17:52.2 | Shepherd | 156.3 |
10 | Matthew Stilson | 17:52.8 | Cadillac | 156.1 |
10 | Claydon Ingleright | 17:55.8 | McBain | 155.1 |
11 | Jackson Kulawiak | 17:56.3 | Buckley | 154.9 |
11 | Owen Gross | 17:56.9 | Beal City | 154.7 |
12 | Philip Rigling | 18:04.1 | Leroy Pine River | 152.3 |
10 | Stephen Fair | 18:04.6 | Lansing Catholic | 152.2 |
10 | Juan Marin | 18:09.3 | McBain | 150.6 |
11 | Nico Lopez | 18:10.7 | Shepherd | 150.1 |
11 | Logan Patrick | 18:11.3 | Manton | 149.9 |
12 | Kobe Canning | 18:11.8 | White Cloud | 149.7 |
9 | Coleson Cruzan | 18:16.1 | White Cloud | 148.3 |
10 | Bjorn Tracy | 18:18.0 | Cadillac | 147.7 |
12 | Ben DuCheny | 18:22.7 | Buckley | 146.1 |
12 | Johnathen Traxler | 18:25.1 | Manton | 145.3 |
9 | Andrew Elmore | 18:25.4 | Cadillac | 145.2 |
10 | Andrew Klaus | 18:25.7 | Clare | 145.1 |
9 | Ayden Barcia | 18:35.9 | Clare | 141.7 |
12 | Ted Bell | 18:39.1 | Clare | 140.6 |
10 | JJ Mahan | 18:47.8 | Cadillac | 137.7 |
9 | Grant Smith | 18:49.5 | Shepherd | 137.2 |
9 | Luke Pettengill | 18:53.1 | McBain Northern Michigan Christian | 136.0 |
9 | Drew Tolfree | 18:57.8 | Lansing Catholic | 134.4 |
9 | Miller Pomper | 18:58.2 | Benzie Central | 134.3 |
10 | Hudson Kiteley | 18:58.5 | Benzie Central | 134.2 |
11 | Carter Lewis | 18:58.8 | Leroy Pine River | 134.1 |
11 | Nolan Moffit | 18:59.4 | Manton | 133.9 |
12 | Cohen Young | 19:00.2 | Clare | 133.6 |
11 | Taj Spencer | 19:02.0 | Beaverton | 133.0 |
10 | Carson Foondle | 19:03.5 | White Cloud | 132.5 |
10 | Joseph Klopf | 19:05.8 | Freeland | 131.7 |
12 | Alex Deeter | 19:06.5 | Freeland | 131.5 |
11 | Braden Melville | 19:08.5 | Buckley | 130.8 |
10 | Nathan Koetje | 19:11.2 | McBain | 129.9 |
10 | Quinten Musgrave | 19:12.7 | Benzie Central | 129.4 |
11 | Dorian Olson | 19:13.9 | Benzie Central | 129.0 |
11 | Malachi Graves | 19:16.7 | White Cloud | 128.1 |
9 | Kaleb Canning | 19:19.8 | White Cloud | 127.1 |
11 | Michael Gottleber | 19:20.3 | Cadillac | 126.9 |
11 | Christian Ringler | 19:23.7 | White Cloud | 125.8 |
9 | Jack Seemann | 19:25.4 | Freeland | 125.2 |
9 | Sam Nemeth | 19:26.9 | Freeland | 124.7 |
10 | Elijah Nevins | 19:27.6 | Lansing Catholic | 124.5 |
10 | Trevor Dornbos | 19:27.7 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 124.4 |
12 | Cameron Salisbury | 19:32.1 | Leroy Pine River | 123.0 |
12 | Logan Mishler | 19:33.9 | Beal City | 122.4 |
9 | Jacob Bowermaster | 19:38.1 | Harrison | 121.0 |
10 | Dylan Traxler | 19:38.6 | Manton | 120.8 |
10 | Scott Slocum | 19:39.8 | Leroy Pine River | 120.4 |
10 | Victor Krueger | 19:41.3 | Harrison | 119.9 |
10 | Karem Turkmus | 19:42.9 | Harrison | 119.4 |
12 | Andrew Frary | 19:43.2 | Lansing Catholic | 119.3 |
10 | Gavin Kelso | 19:47.6 | Leroy Pine River | 117.8 |
11 | Peter Dudley | 19:48.9 | Lansing Catholic | 117.4 |
11 | Tomas Rampe | 19:53.3 | Lansing Catholic | 115.9 |
11 | Jacob Alexander | 19:54.7 | Freeland | 115.4 |
12 | Wyatt Underhill | 19:55.3 | Leroy Pine River | 115.2 |
12 | Andrew Booher | 19:58.3 | Evart | 114.2 |
11 | Frederic Moreau | 19:59.1 | Lansing Catholic | 114.0 |
9 | Ty Harding | 20:03.3 | Manton | 112.6 |
11 | Lucian Smith | 20:03.5 | Manton | 112.5 |
12 | Cole Ingleright | 20:03.8 | McBain | 112.4 |
12 | Trevor Joslin | 20:06.8 | Shepherd | 111.4 |
9 | Payton Corrigan | 20:14.1 | Beaverton | 109.0 |
12 | Ashton Byle | 20:15.3 | White Cloud | 108.6 |
10 | Kaden Abrahamson | 20:17.4 | McBain | 107.9 |
9 | Isaiah Mulheron | 20:22.3 | Clare | 106.2 |
11 | Landon Ochampaugh | 20:25.6 | McBain Northern Michigan Christian | 105.1 |
9 | Caidan Gaskill | 20:27.3 | Clare | 104.6 |
9 | Rylan Bachman | 20:28.9 | Cadillac | 104.0 |
9 | Owen Brickner | 20:30.7 | Shepherd | 103.5 |
12 | Keegan Jeane | 20:33.6 | Benzie Central | 102.5 |
11 | Greg Reed | 20:41.6 | Benzie Central | 99.8 |
11 | Steven Gascoinge | 20:44.2 | Evart | 98.9 |
11 | Cory Vader | 20:46.8 | Evart | 98.1 |
9 | Anderson Oberle | 20:55.9 | Freeland | 95.0 |
10 | Freddie Santangelo | 21:00.1 | Cadillac | 93.6 |
11 | Keagan Kailing | 21:01.4 | White Cloud | 93.2 |
11 | Christopher Benoit | 21:06.3 | Harrison | 91.6 |
9 | Dallas Chamberlain | 21:09.3 | McBain | 90.6 |
10 | Evan Chandler | 21:23.7 | Benzie Central | 85.8 |
9 | Xavier Hoppe | 21:34.1 | Shepherd | 82.3 |
12 | Nikolas Parks-Jose… | 21:35.7 | White Cloud | 81.8 |
11 | Charlie Hicks | 21:37.6 | Clare | 81.1 |
9 | Tim Pentecost | 21:42.0 | Evart | 79.7 |
11 | Eli Mulder | 21:47.0 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 78.0 |
10 | Noah Gola | 21:48.1 | Shepherd | 77.6 |
9 | Avery Bowman | 21:48.5 | White Cloud | 77.5 |
9 | Logan Means | 21:49.5 | Shepherd | 77.2 |
9 | Austin Gross | 21:49.6 | Beal City | 77.1 |
11 | Luke Kennard | 21:50.8 | Cadillac | 76.7 |
9 | Wyatt Karnes | 22:11.0 | White Cloud | 70.0 |
11 | Colin DeKam | 22:14.7 | McBain Northern Michigan Christian | 68.8 |
12 | Lorenzo Milazzo | 22:27.7 | McBain Northern Michigan Christian | 64.4 |
10 | Luke Piersma | 22:32.2 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 62.9 |
11 | Noah Murphy | 22:36.9 | Benzie Central | 61.4 |
10 | Braxton Keblbeck | 22:38.2 | Harrison | 60.9 |
9 | Nash Davidson | 22:42.7 | Freeland | 59.4 |
12 | Hugo Laforet | 22:53.9 | Benzie Central | 55.7 |
12 | John Riddering | 22:57.9 | Grandville Calvin Christian | 54.4 |
11 | Cadin Keysor | 23:06.2 | Evart | 51.6 |
9 | Eli Zeien | 23:08.8 | Beal City | 50.8 |
12 | Luke Thompson | 23:10.0 | Clare | 50.3 |
9 | Logan Hewitt | 23:10.9 | Benzie Central | 50.0 |
12 | Carlos Gomez | 23:26.1 | Cadillac | 45.0 |
10 | Oliver Zeien | 23:29.7 | Beal City | 43.8 |
9 | Joseph Wernette | 23:51.8 | Beal City | 36.4 |
12 | Tucker Vandervelde | 23:53.8 | McBain | 35.7 |
11 | Richard Duynslager | 23:56.6 | Beal City | 34.8 |
10 | Trenton Gladu | 24:07.7 | McBain Northern Michigan Christian | 31.1 |
9 | Zach Rizor | 24:15.5 | Leroy Pine River | 28.5 |
11 | Jacob Booher | 24:28.9 | McBain Northern Michigan Christian | 24.1 |
9 | Hogan Walter | 24:29.3 | Clare | 23.9 |
9 | Clayton Keysor | 24:34.9 | Evart | 22.0 |
12 | Garrett Smith | 24:50.6 | Cadillac | 16.8 |
12 | Jeremiah Niedzielski | 24:55.2 | Freeland | 15.3 |
12 | Cannan Morgan | 24:55.3 | Evart | 15.2 |
9 | Carter Peacock | 24:57.3 | Clare | 14.6 |
10 | Lance Helfer | 25:03.1 | Shepherd | 12.6 |
11 | Joseph Gandolfi | 25:13.1 | McBain | 9.3 |
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